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	<title>Comments on: Life, blame and a search for explanations</title>
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		<title>By: Tina</title>
		<link>http://tractorgirl.wibsite.com/2009/11/10/life-blame-and-a-search-for-explanations/comment-page-1/#comment-6297</link>
		<dc:creator>Tina</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Nov 2009 22:18:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I just put my fingers to the keyboard and lots of burble came out, but basically I wanted to say thank you for this, and prayers for you and your family.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I just put my fingers to the keyboard and lots of burble came out, but basically I wanted to say thank you for this, and prayers for you and your family.</p>
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		<title>By: tractorgirl</title>
		<link>http://tractorgirl.wibsite.com/2009/11/10/life-blame-and-a-search-for-explanations/comment-page-1/#comment-6296</link>
		<dc:creator>tractorgirl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Nov 2009 21:18:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for all the comments. Anna thanks for sharing your story and your prayers. Agatha, yup I did ask her....without getting any satisfactory explanation. The school and I are working on it. Catfood, thanks for giving me the kick up the backside I need. Everybody else thanks for the encouragement generally.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for all the comments. Anna thanks for sharing your story and your prayers. Agatha, yup I did ask her&#8230;.without getting any satisfactory explanation. The school and I are working on it. Catfood, thanks for giving me the kick up the backside I need. Everybody else thanks for the encouragement generally.</p>
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		<title>By: agatha</title>
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		<dc:creator>agatha</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Nov 2009 20:00:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>When you were searching for the explanations did you ask her? And contrary to what everyone else says, I don&#039;t think parents, especially mothers, ever stop feeling either guilty, or at the very least that you could have done a better job. You just have to learn to live with it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When you were searching for the explanations did you ask her? And contrary to what everyone else says, I don&#8217;t think parents, especially mothers, ever stop feeling either guilty, or at the very least that you could have done a better job. You just have to learn to live with it.</p>
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		<title>By: catfood</title>
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		<dc:creator>catfood</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Nov 2009 17:33:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>good for you for working all that out... you might almost be getting all growed up.

God loves you and the Third Party to bits. He&#039;s hardly likely to swat you by making her miss an exam. She is a headstrong young madam and makes her own choices, and she will do just fine. Even if she doesn&#039;t take all her exams now there is a great long future in which she can do it. And she will do it... when she is ready. 

As for your relationship, you have spent a good deal of time telling me that mine is a wonderful thing and that i shouldn&#039;t feel guilt-tripped... physician heal thyself me old love ;-)

Hugs to all 3 of you x</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>good for you for working all that out&#8230; you might almost be getting all growed up.</p>
<p>God loves you and the Third Party to bits. He&#8217;s hardly likely to swat you by making her miss an exam. She is a headstrong young madam and makes her own choices, and she will do just fine. Even if she doesn&#8217;t take all her exams now there is a great long future in which she can do it. And she will do it&#8230; when she is ready. </p>
<p>As for your relationship, you have spent a good deal of time telling me that mine is a wonderful thing and that i shouldn&#8217;t feel guilt-tripped&#8230; physician heal thyself me old love <img src='http://tractorgirl.wibsite.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Hugs to all 3 of you x</p>
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		<title>By: Jack the Lass</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jack the Lass</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Nov 2009 17:16:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nothing more to add to the bucketloads of wisdom above, other than &quot;I hear you&quot;.  Hugs.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nothing more to add to the bucketloads of wisdom above, other than &#8220;I hear you&#8221;.  Hugs.</p>
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		<title>By: Anna</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anna</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Nov 2009 13:04:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I will pray for you and your daughter, with buckets of empathy. This is the kind of situation that has come up a lot in my own family - with me and my siblings all having a slightly &#039;unconventional&#039; approach to education. 

I missed approximately one-third of my entire secondary school years, and had to take a year out after GCSEs (which was when I worked in CLC) but still have made it to doing a PhD (something that still shocks me). My middle brother never slept at night, was ill a lot and got glandular fever, so had to take a year out. My youngest brother has had an anxiety problem since he was about ten, which made him miss the majority of his secondary education. In year 11 he was taught at home, sat five GCSEs, four of which he got, including an A* !) and managed to go back to school for his AS Levels, which he did well in, and he has a normal social life now. But for some reason the pressure of doing well has got to him, and he hasn&#039;t gone to many of his classes for his A2 year. 

This leads my dad to say things like &#039;I wonder where I got it wrong with you all...&#039; Which as his child is very painful to hear. I want my father to be proud of our successes, not ashamed and guilty about our failings.

Your post reminded me of a lot of things about the more fundamentalist aspects of evangelicalism which are so damaging. I get so angry with these mindsets, and the way that their influence can linger even with rational, highly educated people (like me, or you). My father had a brain haemorrhage just before I first started uni at Durham. I went in to CLC to say goodbye, and to ask them to pray for my dad, one man there (a volunteer), who knew about my depression and had previously offered some spiritual warfare on my behalf, told me that my dad&#039;s near death was due to &#039;something with a stronghold down the family line.&#039; I was gobsmacked and very hurt. But the stupidity of his comment made me realise the stupidity of that entire paradigm, and funnily enough enabled me to recover from fear of demonic powers.

Anyway,  what all this autobiographical stuff is trying to say is that I know where you&#039;re coming from, and that I sincerely hope that you and your daughter will come through it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I will pray for you and your daughter, with buckets of empathy. This is the kind of situation that has come up a lot in my own family &#8211; with me and my siblings all having a slightly &#8216;unconventional&#8217; approach to education. </p>
<p>I missed approximately one-third of my entire secondary school years, and had to take a year out after GCSEs (which was when I worked in CLC) but still have made it to doing a PhD (something that still shocks me). My middle brother never slept at night, was ill a lot and got glandular fever, so had to take a year out. My youngest brother has had an anxiety problem since he was about ten, which made him miss the majority of his secondary education. In year 11 he was taught at home, sat five GCSEs, four of which he got, including an A* !) and managed to go back to school for his AS Levels, which he did well in, and he has a normal social life now. But for some reason the pressure of doing well has got to him, and he hasn&#8217;t gone to many of his classes for his A2 year. </p>
<p>This leads my dad to say things like &#8216;I wonder where I got it wrong with you all&#8230;&#8217; Which as his child is very painful to hear. I want my father to be proud of our successes, not ashamed and guilty about our failings.</p>
<p>Your post reminded me of a lot of things about the more fundamentalist aspects of evangelicalism which are so damaging. I get so angry with these mindsets, and the way that their influence can linger even with rational, highly educated people (like me, or you). My father had a brain haemorrhage just before I first started uni at Durham. I went in to CLC to say goodbye, and to ask them to pray for my dad, one man there (a volunteer), who knew about my depression and had previously offered some spiritual warfare on my behalf, told me that my dad&#8217;s near death was due to &#8217;something with a stronghold down the family line.&#8217; I was gobsmacked and very hurt. But the stupidity of his comment made me realise the stupidity of that entire paradigm, and funnily enough enabled me to recover from fear of demonic powers.</p>
<p>Anyway,  what all this autobiographical stuff is trying to say is that I know where you&#8217;re coming from, and that I sincerely hope that you and your daughter will come through it.</p>
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		<title>By: tractorgirl</title>
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		<dc:creator>tractorgirl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Nov 2009 10:44:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks Tom. Yes, as a Sociologist I am aware of the way primary socialisation works and the generational impact that has. On a rational level I know that and that to put these things down to demonic entities is absolutely farcical....yesterday I was thinking far from rationally though. Think sometimes one of the faults we have as Christians is to use our religion as an excuse to let go of common sense and rational thinking sometimes.

Thanks for your comment, it actually helps loads somebody I admire from my &quot;old world&quot; took the time to comment and point out the obvious which I need to hear sometimes. Everybody is being so lovely....thank you.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks Tom. Yes, as a Sociologist I am aware of the way primary socialisation works and the generational impact that has. On a rational level I know that and that to put these things down to demonic entities is absolutely farcical&#8230;.yesterday I was thinking far from rationally though. Think sometimes one of the faults we have as Christians is to use our religion as an excuse to let go of common sense and rational thinking sometimes.</p>
<p>Thanks for your comment, it actually helps loads somebody I admire from my &#8220;old world&#8221; took the time to comment and point out the obvious which I need to hear sometimes. Everybody is being so lovely&#8230;.thank you.</p>
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		<title>By: Tom McKinlay</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tom McKinlay</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Nov 2009 10:31:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Glad you came to the conclusion that you are not at fault.  If my middle child does not motivate himself to fulfil his potential, that is his responsibility (he is 25years old now).  I have done all I can.  As a sociologist you surely know that behaviours and the consequences of them do carry down through the generations - see Fathers &amp; Sons (Richard Madely).  However to attribute such generational traits to demonic entities is farcical.  We have more to fear from the love of God than his wrath.  God is love and it is that love shining constantly upon us that convicts us of our own sin and calls us to repentance.  You have not fallen as far as Judas, nor have I.  He had the place of honour at the Last Supper.  This was as William Barclay put it, &quot;Love&#039;s last appeal&quot;  With all our confessed failures we are still welcome at his table.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Glad you came to the conclusion that you are not at fault.  If my middle child does not motivate himself to fulfil his potential, that is his responsibility (he is 25years old now).  I have done all I can.  As a sociologist you surely know that behaviours and the consequences of them do carry down through the generations &#8211; see Fathers &amp; Sons (Richard Madely).  However to attribute such generational traits to demonic entities is farcical.  We have more to fear from the love of God than his wrath.  God is love and it is that love shining constantly upon us that convicts us of our own sin and calls us to repentance.  You have not fallen as far as Judas, nor have I.  He had the place of honour at the Last Supper.  This was as William Barclay put it, &#8220;Love&#8217;s last appeal&#8221;  With all our confessed failures we are still welcome at his table.</p>
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		<title>By: tractorgirl</title>
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		<dc:creator>tractorgirl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Nov 2009 10:20:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks guys for the kind and sensible words. With the help of a friend she did manage it in to take her 2nd Maths paper today, having managed one last week. It&#039;s the English that she will now have to do all of in the summer.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks guys for the kind and sensible words. With the help of a friend she did manage it in to take her 2nd Maths paper today, having managed one last week. It&#8217;s the English that she will now have to do all of in the summer.</p>
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		<title>By: Ian</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Nov 2009 09:47:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thank you for sharing; love and prayers for not beating yourself up: and thank you for the answer “I don’t know, God just give me wisdom to get through this and do the right thing, somehow” which seems to be made for me now.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you for sharing; love and prayers for not beating yourself up: and thank you for the answer “I don’t know, God just give me wisdom to get through this and do the right thing, somehow” which seems to be made for me now.</p>
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